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		<title>By: klu</title>
		<link>http://burnsidewriters.com/2009/11/04/happy-accidents-in-a-common-place/comment-page-1/#comment-13254</link>
		<dc:creator>klu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Nov 2009 14:39:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am digging your view on hope and hospitlity. Beautiful and smart. Thank you for your very thoughtful response. You answered  my questions.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am digging your view on hope and hospitlity. Beautiful and smart. Thank you for your very thoughtful response. You answered  my questions.</p>
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		<title>By: Andrew</title>
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		<dc:creator>Andrew</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Nov 2009 14:38:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>so how do you integrate being intentional and authentic? If you just hope it happens naturally, it probably wont happen. Its the age old freedom within boundaries thing. how can you foster an organic community? or its that contradictory?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>so how do you integrate being intentional and authentic? If you just hope it happens naturally, it probably wont happen. Its the age old freedom within boundaries thing. how can you foster an organic community? or its that contradictory?</p>
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		<title>By: Kathleen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kathleen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Nov 2009 14:01:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for the clarification.  You seem to be saying that instead of manufacturing community groups to make sure that everyone has a place, the church should encourage its members to cultivate proper attitudes so that relationships happen organically. I like that. It sounds . . . better. More realistic and genuine. I don&#039;t know if I&#039;m summing up your thoughts properly, but I think I get what you&#039;re saying.  And I like it. Thanks. I&#039;ve been thinking about this issue a lot in the last day since you posted the original article.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the clarification.  You seem to be saying that instead of manufacturing community groups to make sure that everyone has a place, the church should encourage its members to cultivate proper attitudes so that relationships happen organically. I like that. It sounds . . . better. More realistic and genuine. I don&#8217;t know if I&#8217;m summing up your thoughts properly, but I think I get what you&#8217;re saying.  And I like it. Thanks. I&#8217;ve been thinking about this issue a lot in the last day since you posted the original article.</p>
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		<title>By: annie</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Nov 2009 04:36:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It seems like, on a really basic level, it&#039;s a balance issue.  Obviously, it would be great if people were outgoing and welcoming and healthy community was totally organic.  Sometimes it happens, and we should embrace it.  But, the world is a broken place, and part of what is broken is our ability to love each other well, accept people that stretch us beyond comfort, and step out in spite of our fears and insecurities.  For those reasons, it can be very beneficial to have a structure and a system of &quot;doing life together&quot;.  However, we can&#039;t lose sight of the fact that it is a training tool, rather than an end unto itself.  They artificially force us to endure and maintain and expand our minds and horizons, in the hopes that we will learn to organically be willing to welcome and grow and stick it out.  The recoiling comes when we forget.  Then they become something weird and even ugly.  Fake little cliques that help everyone involved deceive themselves while pushing them in the opposite direction that they were intended to go.  When that happens, it isn&#039;t because all &quot;community&quot; is bad.  It&#039;s because we&#039;ve perverted it and turned into the worst manifestation of itself by trying to make it something it was never meant to be.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It seems like, on a really basic level, it&#8217;s a balance issue.  Obviously, it would be great if people were outgoing and welcoming and healthy community was totally organic.  Sometimes it happens, and we should embrace it.  But, the world is a broken place, and part of what is broken is our ability to love each other well, accept people that stretch us beyond comfort, and step out in spite of our fears and insecurities.  For those reasons, it can be very beneficial to have a structure and a system of &#8220;doing life together&#8221;.  However, we can&#8217;t lose sight of the fact that it is a training tool, rather than an end unto itself.  They artificially force us to endure and maintain and expand our minds and horizons, in the hopes that we will learn to organically be willing to welcome and grow and stick it out.  The recoiling comes when we forget.  Then they become something weird and even ugly.  Fake little cliques that help everyone involved deceive themselves while pushing them in the opposite direction that they were intended to go.  When that happens, it isn&#8217;t because all &#8220;community&#8221; is bad.  It&#8217;s because we&#8217;ve perverted it and turned into the worst manifestation of itself by trying to make it something it was never meant to be.</p>
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		<title>By: Dave Zimmerman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dave Zimmerman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Nov 2009 02:13:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Here&#039;s a long, ponderous response to some of the well-considered pushback above. I apologize for the length and welcome further feedback.

Several people rightly observed that a church may make people sit together, even talk together, even eat together, even do life together, but it’s God who brings people together: through divine appointment, through the gathering of his flock, through such sacraments as birth, baptism, communion, marriage, death. To the extent that we come to rely on a church program or database to feed us friendship, we’re numbed to the more subtle, more organic relationships that God is cultivating for us.

I agree wholeheartedly that relationships aren’t a commodity to be consumed, hoarded or negotiated. Relationships are too human for that. Relationships are a trust, a covenant. To the degree that we trade in relationships we betray the gift that they are. God said it’s not good for the man to be alone, and so he introduced human community to the creation. When we find ourselves surrounded by people who are very like us, we shouldn’t be terribly surprised. But when we find ourselves entering into meaningful relationship with another person, we should marvel at the miracle. C. S. Lewis was right: demographics may be dreadfully boring, but people are marvelous.

So what do we do in place of consuming prepackaged, predictable relationships, on the one side, and enduring frustration at the seeming dearth of potential friends, on the other? And what role ought the church to play in the cultivation of real relationship?

Well, I think our challenge is train ourselves in alertness, in assertiveness, in hospitality, in hope. And I think the church—as klu pointed out, a people rather than a place—is responsible to train itself in those four things as well. I often think of the first encounter of Adam and Eve. Alertness was a stretch for both: Adam has only recently undergone rib-removal under heavy sedation, and Eve has only recently been fashioned out of the dust of the earth. Adam asserts himself by naming Eve and accepting her into the human community, which has just doubled in size. Eve, simultaneously, asserts her humanness, willingly enters into Adam’s reality and embraces God’s mandate to the human community to steward God’s creation. Without the active participation of both, there is no human community, and each is still alone, which God has already decreed is not good. 

Hospitality is likewise a key ingredient of the kind of happy accident that we keep alert for and cultivate when we find it. And hospitality—the openness of one to another—is the discipline that guards us against cliquishness and homogeneity. We assume a posture of being ready to receive another, and artificial constraints against that reception—ethnicity, economics, personality type, intellect, appearance, whatever—self-evidently violate our prior commitment to being open to the other. I’d argue that manufactured gatherings, from small groups to church services themselves, have the potential to subvert this eminently Christian discipline.

And finally, hope—a resolute attempt to see beyond the immediate to the potential. Hope kept Martin Luther King talking to the White Citizens Councils in the segregated south; hope kept Paul writing letters to churches behaving badly. With hope we can take risks in relationship, risks that have often been systematically minimized and sterilized in manufactured gatherings. 

Alertness, assertiveness, hospitality and hope are never necessarily our first instincts, which is why we need to train ourselves in them, and why the church would do better if it would reallocate its resources from small group database software into helping, challenging, commanding and empowering people to grow in these areas. Happy accidents are all around us because every place is a common place, because the earth was established for the people of God. And they’re all around us because all the earth is the Lord’s, and the fullness thereof—no matter how common.

Of course, as is my custom, I’m making this all up as I go along.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here&#8217;s a long, ponderous response to some of the well-considered pushback above. I apologize for the length and welcome further feedback.</p>
<p>Several people rightly observed that a church may make people sit together, even talk together, even eat together, even do life together, but it’s God who brings people together: through divine appointment, through the gathering of his flock, through such sacraments as birth, baptism, communion, marriage, death. To the extent that we come to rely on a church program or database to feed us friendship, we’re numbed to the more subtle, more organic relationships that God is cultivating for us.</p>
<p>I agree wholeheartedly that relationships aren’t a commodity to be consumed, hoarded or negotiated. Relationships are too human for that. Relationships are a trust, a covenant. To the degree that we trade in relationships we betray the gift that they are. God said it’s not good for the man to be alone, and so he introduced human community to the creation. When we find ourselves surrounded by people who are very like us, we shouldn’t be terribly surprised. But when we find ourselves entering into meaningful relationship with another person, we should marvel at the miracle. C. S. Lewis was right: demographics may be dreadfully boring, but people are marvelous.</p>
<p>So what do we do in place of consuming prepackaged, predictable relationships, on the one side, and enduring frustration at the seeming dearth of potential friends, on the other? And what role ought the church to play in the cultivation of real relationship?</p>
<p>Well, I think our challenge is train ourselves in alertness, in assertiveness, in hospitality, in hope. And I think the church—as klu pointed out, a people rather than a place—is responsible to train itself in those four things as well. I often think of the first encounter of Adam and Eve. Alertness was a stretch for both: Adam has only recently undergone rib-removal under heavy sedation, and Eve has only recently been fashioned out of the dust of the earth. Adam asserts himself by naming Eve and accepting her into the human community, which has just doubled in size. Eve, simultaneously, asserts her humanness, willingly enters into Adam’s reality and embraces God’s mandate to the human community to steward God’s creation. Without the active participation of both, there is no human community, and each is still alone, which God has already decreed is not good. </p>
<p>Hospitality is likewise a key ingredient of the kind of happy accident that we keep alert for and cultivate when we find it. And hospitality—the openness of one to another—is the discipline that guards us against cliquishness and homogeneity. We assume a posture of being ready to receive another, and artificial constraints against that reception—ethnicity, economics, personality type, intellect, appearance, whatever—self-evidently violate our prior commitment to being open to the other. I’d argue that manufactured gatherings, from small groups to church services themselves, have the potential to subvert this eminently Christian discipline.</p>
<p>And finally, hope—a resolute attempt to see beyond the immediate to the potential. Hope kept Martin Luther King talking to the White Citizens Councils in the segregated south; hope kept Paul writing letters to churches behaving badly. With hope we can take risks in relationship, risks that have often been systematically minimized and sterilized in manufactured gatherings. </p>
<p>Alertness, assertiveness, hospitality and hope are never necessarily our first instincts, which is why we need to train ourselves in them, and why the church would do better if it would reallocate its resources from small group database software into helping, challenging, commanding and empowering people to grow in these areas. Happy accidents are all around us because every place is a common place, because the earth was established for the people of God. And they’re all around us because all the earth is the Lord’s, and the fullness thereof—no matter how common.</p>
<p>Of course, as is my custom, I’m making this all up as I go along.</p>
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		<title>By: Links for November 4th &#124; jonathan stegall: creative tension</title>
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		<dc:creator>Links for November 4th &#124; jonathan stegall: creative tension</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Nov 2009 02:02:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Janel</title>
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		<dc:creator>Janel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Nov 2009 23:11:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>EXCELLENT essay. :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>EXCELLENT essay. <img src='http://burnsidewriters.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Stephanie Nikolopoulos</title>
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		<dc:creator>Stephanie Nikolopoulos</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Nov 2009 18:25:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The emphasis on community, both in the church and in this article, seems to take precedence over learning about God, growing closer to Him, and doing His work.  Community is certainly important, but the point of community within the church is to help one another, not just with rides to the airport, but more importantly on our spiritual walk.  Both the happy accident and the intentional small-group seem self-serving.  We need to be community to others.  For ourselves, we need to not just seek out people within a certain demographic, but to form relationships in which we are mentored and relationships in which we mentor others.  I think community and friendship fail so often because they are self-serving, founded on a list of likes and dislikes, and whether we click or not, rather than on higher principles.  That said, I don’t think we should feel guilty for not clicking with an artificial demographic, but rather we need to think whether God has placed us in that community for a reason or whether there’s a different community that we should be part of.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The emphasis on community, both in the church and in this article, seems to take precedence over learning about God, growing closer to Him, and doing His work.  Community is certainly important, but the point of community within the church is to help one another, not just with rides to the airport, but more importantly on our spiritual walk.  Both the happy accident and the intentional small-group seem self-serving.  We need to be community to others.  For ourselves, we need to not just seek out people within a certain demographic, but to form relationships in which we are mentored and relationships in which we mentor others.  I think community and friendship fail so often because they are self-serving, founded on a list of likes and dislikes, and whether we click or not, rather than on higher principles.  That said, I don’t think we should feel guilty for not clicking with an artificial demographic, but rather we need to think whether God has placed us in that community for a reason or whether there’s a different community that we should be part of.</p>
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		<title>By: Dave Zimmerman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dave Zimmerman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Nov 2009 17:51:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey all: You&#039;re raising great points, and highlighting the fact that this essay, like all entries in Becoming the Great Us, are works in progress. Tonight I&#039;ll try to clean up whatever ambiguity I left in the essay, respond to critiques and questions, and maybe force myself to tease out some more implications from this provisional idea. Thanks for all the food for thought--my brain is stuffed, even if my tummy is currently empty.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey all: You&#8217;re raising great points, and highlighting the fact that this essay, like all entries in Becoming the Great Us, are works in progress. Tonight I&#8217;ll try to clean up whatever ambiguity I left in the essay, respond to critiques and questions, and maybe force myself to tease out some more implications from this provisional idea. Thanks for all the food for thought&#8211;my brain is stuffed, even if my tummy is currently empty.</p>
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		<title>By: Kim Gottschild</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kim Gottschild</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Nov 2009 17:36:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>thank you, thank you, thank you</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>thank you, thank you, thank you</p>
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