Comments on: Rob Bell 2.0 (or Where Are the Artists?) http://burnsidewriters.com/2009/11/19/rob-bell-2-0-or-where-are-the-artists/ Thu, 11 Mar 2010 05:07:39 -0700 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.1 hourly 1 By: Kevin Gassen http://burnsidewriters.com/2009/11/19/rob-bell-2-0-or-where-are-the-artists/comment-page-1/#comment-13762 Kevin Gassen Sat, 19 Dec 2009 04:41:11 +0000 http://burnsidewriters.com/?p=7872#comment-13762 Well-written. Thanks. As someone who has struggled with an addiction myself, I really appreciate what <a href="http://qvof.com/2009/12/18/ferguson-speaks-from-the-heart" rel="nofollow">Craig Ferguson</a> has to say about it. <a href="http://www.qvof.com" rel="nofollow">If you'd like to see my blog it's here</a>. Thanks again for this blog - it is really well-done. Well-written. Thanks. As someone who has struggled with an addiction myself, I really appreciate what Craig Ferguson has to say about it. If you’d like to see my blog it’s here. Thanks again for this blog – it is really well-done.

]]> By: djlmwh http://burnsidewriters.com/2009/11/19/rob-bell-2-0-or-where-are-the-artists/comment-page-1/#comment-13709 djlmwh Mon, 14 Dec 2009 19:17:10 +0000 http://burnsidewriters.com/?p=7872#comment-13709 At Mars Hill LGBT people are seen as just that.... people.... "It" is not seen as an "issue" there. Real people, living real lives, are ministered to by other real people, regardless of who they are and what life has delivered to them. The environment is not an "issue" at Mars Hill, but rather, a responsibility of individuals. Mars Hill does not take political stances on "issues" but rather chooses to minister to people. Thank the LORD. At Mars Hill LGBT people are seen as just that…. people…. “It” is not seen as an “issue” there. Real people, living real lives, are ministered to by other real people, regardless of who they are and what life has delivered to them. The environment is not an “issue” at Mars Hill, but rather, a responsibility of individuals. Mars Hill does not take political stances on “issues” but rather chooses to minister to people. Thank the LORD.

]]> By: hal http://burnsidewriters.com/2009/11/19/rob-bell-2-0-or-where-are-the-artists/comment-page-1/#comment-13664 hal Wed, 09 Dec 2009 23:40:25 +0000 http://burnsidewriters.com/?p=7872#comment-13664 All of the comments above are quite interesting ... how it seemed everyone got something .. or nothing from Rob's answers ... could it be however, that by not taking a "stand" as suggested, getting people together in community working toward real needs in lives of those in need, working together on common goals, that through the process we discover what is "right & wrong" ... ??? It would certainly seem if we took a "stand" there would certainly be fewer people to work together ... and fewer opportunities to discover where love truely lives .... just a thought .... All of the comments above are quite interesting … how it seemed everyone got something .. or nothing from Rob’s answers …
could it be however, that by not taking a “stand” as suggested, getting people together in community working toward real needs in lives of those in need, working together on common goals, that through the process we discover what is “right & wrong” … ???
It would certainly seem if we took a “stand” there would certainly be fewer people to work together … and fewer opportunities to discover where love truely lives …. just a thought ….

]]> By: Another Tim http://burnsidewriters.com/2009/11/19/rob-bell-2-0-or-where-are-the-artists/comment-page-1/#comment-13585 Another Tim Thu, 03 Dec 2009 19:14:52 +0000 http://burnsidewriters.com/?p=7872#comment-13585 I think you meant to say "condemn" in a few place where you said "condone" (responding to JDM and John Wofford) I think you meant to say “condemn” in a few place where you said “condone” (responding to JDM and John Wofford)

]]> By: Christine Lee Smith http://burnsidewriters.com/2009/11/19/rob-bell-2-0-or-where-are-the-artists/comment-page-1/#comment-13567 Christine Lee Smith Wed, 02 Dec 2009 02:17:47 +0000 http://burnsidewriters.com/?p=7872#comment-13567 "It is an issue that our country is focused on at this time and it needs to be dealt with so we can move on to saving the millions of innocent lives." If only it were that easy. While we're sitting here debating Rob Bell's theology (myself included) people are dying from lack of clean water to drink, or preventable diseases. If we wait to "move on" until we can all "just get along" millions of innocents will be sacrificed. I'd rather agree to disagree, then link arms with people who want to love the needy and let God work out the rest. It's His job anyway; ours is to love one another and serve those in need. “It is an issue that our country is focused on at this time and it needs to be dealt with so we can move on to saving the millions of innocent lives.”

If only it were that easy.

While we’re sitting here debating Rob Bell’s theology (myself included) people are dying from lack of clean water to drink, or preventable diseases.

If we wait to “move on” until we can all “just get along” millions of innocents will be sacrificed. I’d rather agree to disagree, then link arms with people who want to love the needy and let God work out the rest. It’s His job anyway; ours is to love one another and serve those in need.

]]> By: Sharon http://burnsidewriters.com/2009/11/19/rob-bell-2-0-or-where-are-the-artists/comment-page-1/#comment-13562 Sharon Tue, 01 Dec 2009 15:59:42 +0000 http://burnsidewriters.com/?p=7872#comment-13562 Rob, as a pastor and teacher, I have to say that I enjoy the content of your teaching and your style. While I do not consider myself to be a wordsmith, I do believe that the careful use of my words along with the tone of my voice are important in the crafting of a sermon. In my experience, men and women open their hearts when each sermon includes scripture, instruction, questions, laughter, love, insight, and personal experience and no one does this better than you. Rob, as a pastor and teacher, I have to say that I enjoy the content of your teaching and your style. While I do not consider myself to be a wordsmith, I do believe that the careful use of my words along with the tone of my voice are important in the crafting of a sermon. In my experience, men and women open their hearts when each sermon includes scripture, instruction, questions, laughter, love, insight, and personal experience and no one does this better than you.

]]> By: Lisa http://burnsidewriters.com/2009/11/19/rob-bell-2-0-or-where-are-the-artists/comment-page-1/#comment-13530 Lisa Sun, 29 Nov 2009 04:52:18 +0000 http://burnsidewriters.com/?p=7872#comment-13530 I have always felt, while reading, Bells' books that sense that he doesn't want to give you all the answers but desires that we become students of grace, love, justice and truth. Jesus did the same. They are called parables. He who has ears, let him hear. I have always felt, while reading, Bells’ books that sense that he doesn’t want to give you all the answers but desires that we become students of grace, love, justice and truth. Jesus did the same. They are called parables. He who has ears, let him hear.

]]> By: Greg J http://burnsidewriters.com/2009/11/19/rob-bell-2-0-or-where-are-the-artists/comment-page-1/#comment-13494 Greg J Wed, 25 Nov 2009 21:53:11 +0000 http://burnsidewriters.com/?p=7872#comment-13494 anonymous, I have been thinking about your response and realized that you clearly stated my struggle with. To me there is such a "vagueness" to his message at times I am never really sure what he is saying or where he is at. It is not that I don't admire some of the things he does, but these other things make it a stuggle for me to "stay tuned." Thanks again anonymous,

I have been thinking about your response and realized that you clearly stated my struggle with. To me there is such a “vagueness” to his message at times I am never really sure what he is saying or where he is at. It is not that I don’t admire some of the things he does, but these other things make it a stuggle for me to “stay tuned.” Thanks again

]]> By: Matthew http://burnsidewriters.com/2009/11/19/rob-bell-2-0-or-where-are-the-artists/comment-page-1/#comment-13493 Matthew Wed, 25 Nov 2009 21:32:21 +0000 http://burnsidewriters.com/?p=7872#comment-13493 I believe the Apostle Paul is fairly adamant that we are to take on the character of Christ and although Jesus spent time with sinners he did not condone their behavior. The fear of making people feel bad is having a negative consequence on the church. I believe the Apostle Paul is fairly adamant that we are to take on the character of Christ and although Jesus spent time with sinners he did not condone their behavior. The fear of making people feel bad is having a negative consequence on the church.

]]> By: vickie http://burnsidewriters.com/2009/11/19/rob-bell-2-0-or-where-are-the-artists/comment-page-1/#comment-13482 vickie Wed, 25 Nov 2009 00:13:29 +0000 http://burnsidewriters.com/?p=7872#comment-13482 Right on. How refreshing to hear a spiritual voice speak only about love with no agenda other than to get people to ponder their own approach to living a God centered life. M - Have a hard time with the comparison drawn between alcoholics and a homosexuals. I know too many heterosexuals in non-loving (legal) marriges who do no honor to the sacrament. I believe it is about love and respect between two human beings. My two cents, peace. Right on. How refreshing to hear a spiritual voice speak only about love with no agenda other than to get people to ponder their own approach to living a God centered life.

M – Have a hard time with the comparison drawn between alcoholics and a homosexuals. I know too many heterosexuals in non-loving (legal) marriges who do no honor to the sacrament. I believe it is about love and respect between two human beings.

My two cents, peace.

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