Comments on: Praying for Obama’s Demise?

By: nia

nia — Tue, 15 Dec 2009 20:24:23 +0000

i think that this is bullshit and you should never use any thing cristian or from the bible to wish death on someone!!!!!

By: AF Roger

AF Roger — Sat, 28 Nov 2009 19:38:04 +0000

I lead a worship ministry among people experiencing homelessness, low-income, addictions and mental illness in downtown Portland. I’d have to say that these folks are more faithful in praying for leaders, our troops and their families than any other group or class of people I have known. But we don’t stop there. We pray for each other and for the people of America in general.

I often find myself wondering how “leadable” we really are or what we expect our leaders to be other than extensions or clones of ourselves. After all, Jesus himself was crucified, not for being the Christ but for being–in the eyes of those who were secure in life–the anti-Christ. Are we any better at recognizing the genuine article today than some of the folks of 2K years ago?

By: Fortuitous Bouncing « Man of Depravity

Fortuitous Bouncing « Man of Depravity — Sat, 28 Nov 2009 12:50:47 +0000

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By: aubero

aubero — Sat, 28 Nov 2009 04:00:47 +0000

I’m Canadian, I say this only so you know I’m coming from an outsider’s perspective and I’m not saying this as someone who feels superior at all, there are just as many problems.

I have family in California and I talk with them often. It’s helped me comprehend some of the differences between our two nations. In Canada we say we believe in “peace, order and good government” and as a result often come off looking bland and dispassionate. Sometimes that is true.

In the U.S. it seems to me that how a politician says something is as important as what they say. Americans seem to appreciate a “tell it like it is” approach. Sometimes this is significantly better than the stereotypical “Canadian” approach, sometimes worse.

I guess what I’m trying to say is that as an outsider who often gets very faulty representations of public debate in America consists of this particular message board is very encouraging. It’s fantastic to see people being able to express their differing opinions on message boards without always resulting to vitriol and rhetoric that often accompanies these conversations.

Again I want to emphasize that this is not a value judgment on the rightness or wrongness of anyone’s particular view point or nationality, just a message of appreciation for reasoned debate.

By: Jordan Green

Jordan Green — Fri, 27 Nov 2009 05:57:49 +0000

What are you referring to, Slider?

I think we’re as open to satire and comedy as much as anyone around here, but threats against human life aren’t to be taken lightly.

I mean, if made a joke about killing your mother because I didn’t like her, you might have cause for concern, right?

By: Slider

Slider — Fri, 27 Nov 2009 05:40:23 +0000

It amazes me how thin skinned people are anymore. Those who take stuff like that serious need to lighten up and get a life.

By: Carole Turner

Carole Turner — Fri, 27 Nov 2009 05:35:06 +0000

Look, I live in Louisiana where Republi-Christian is a religion! I did not vote for Obama but I am glad he is President. I am an independent who really struggled on Election day and I prayed hard that God would put in the White House who He wanted. BUT most of my friends do think Obama is the Anti Christ, no joke. They are also in complete fear and end of the world mindset most days when hearing about anything Obama is doing “To” our country. It’s pathetic. I just try to walk in grace and mercy. It’s not easy.

By: Greg J

Greg J — Thu, 26 Nov 2009 18:49:05 +0000

Did the people who called Bush a fascist really believe he was a fascist? I mean, the Websters dictionary definition of fascist, and can they support it with some sort of evidence? Do the people who call Oboma a socialist really believe he is a socialist, and can they support it with evidence? That is part of the core issue and problem. Part of good dialog is defining terms and agreeing to definitions so that true discussion, and hopefully resolution can take place. Name calling has no purpose other than to insight anger.

By: James

James — Thu, 26 Nov 2009 17:33:44 +0000

I agree that name-calling is as un-biblical as it gets. I think the line is fuzzier of someone, in the course of explaining why they vote a certain way, or why they take a certain position on a political topic, states that the Obama health care plan leans too much towards socialism. That’s not name-calling and is in fact a political assessment, and can often be the result of thinking the whole issue through and reaching a conclusion.

NOTE: Please don’t anyone use this to start up a conversation about healthcare reform. I only use it as an example because the topic of calling Obama a socialist was brought up in the original article. Many more examples come to mind. Don’t stray from the point I was making: there’s a difference between name-calling and stating concerns about a candidate or about proposed legislation.

By: JG

JG — Thu, 26 Nov 2009 16:27:40 +0000

Back to the Sodom and Gomorrah comparisons, which get thrown around like candy at a parade: if you read that whole story, you quickly understand those places were pretty insane. I mean, consider the fact that the only people righteous enough to be saved from its destruction were a woman who was turned into a pillar of salt for disobeying God as soon as she left, and a man who first offers his daughters’ virginity as payment to save the city, then commits drunken incest with them.

So yeah, the comparisons seem a little ridiculous. Are we a morally bereft nation? Sure…just like every other.