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		<title>By: Beth</title>
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		<dc:creator>Beth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Jan 2010 04:56:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good article Richard :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good article Richard <img src='http://burnsidewriters.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Jo</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 10 Jan 2010 16:45:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>One more.  One more!  Really, think I will be done after this one. 
 
I think one can appreciate more that prior clip I posted from the movie in vew of the other prior consecutive ones (posted below).  Like I said, I saw good points in all three perspective and feel with how the movie ended, it probably showed how Spacey and the younger guy made peace with their differences, and maybe even benefitted some from each other there.  Devito seemed to have had that already.  
 
Very impressed too with the acting.  Spacey is awesome in his role, yet Devito and the other guy held their own very well by him.  I&#039;ve never seen Devito any better than in this role.
 
From what I saw of the movie, the younger guy did appear to show interest in the big Kahuna&#039;s life and from what he said just took the opportunity to share his faith in Jesus.  I felt he did show honest and sincere interest in the big Kahuna&#039;s life and what he had to share regarding it.  Yet I can relate to Spacey too.  In the past with the previous owner at my place of employment I used to step in on temporary General Manager assignment while he was between GMs.  During one such time myself and another Christian had a similar discussion.  If I recall correctly, I addressed the issue of dispensing charity to customers at the owner&#039;s expense.  I got a comment back that implied I wasn&#039;t being Christianly.  I felt that looking down and was also angered by what I saw as not seeing things from the owner&#039;s perspective.  And my comment was, &quot;This is business...&quot;  also elaborating on not ignoring the owner&#039;s instructions and goals.  I had no problems with them taking their own finances to aid others and even speaking of Jesus if others were open to it (I&#039;ve done the same) but felt they were wrong in ignoring the owner&#039;s specific instructions in other areas, especially since it was his finances.  
 
Anyway, in my view I think the younger guy could have spoken of Jesus while also sharing why he was sent there.  He could have told the big Kahuna that he was concerned that he would just see his sharing Jesus as a means to win his business but he honestly cared about him so that wasn&#039;t the case, and just left their card if he wanted to pursue the topic of business further, as Devito and Spacey wanted him to do (that is all they finally agreed on doing if I recollect correctly).  Seemed they all knew the big Kahuna wasn&#039;t interested in business at that time in his life but Devito and Spacey were hoping to peak his interest there anyway, as they were sent to do.
 
I&#039;m big on honest communication as I feel it can help in doing away with assumptions that can get bent all out of shape.  
 
Again, from what I saw of the movie I thought it was a wonderful exploration regarding sharing the gospel and other things around the topic of religion, God, and priorities.  I&#039;m looking forward to seeing the whole movie.  
 
Let me know if it was a derailing and not appreciated.  Still find &quot;short&quot; challenging but I can put it away if not appreciated because to me that would be the bigger issue, how open others are to it and how beneficial they find it.   

Anyway, below are the consecutive scenes.  Grab the popcorn and settle in.  Don&#039;t you just love youtube?:
 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=94XTIIgChj8&amp;feature=related
 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f-TV3JNPpCE&amp;feature=related
 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a_43bczYDhY&amp;feature=related
 
Enjoy!
Jo</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One more.  One more!  Really, think I will be done after this one. </p>
<p>I think one can appreciate more that prior clip I posted from the movie in vew of the other prior consecutive ones (posted below).  Like I said, I saw good points in all three perspective and feel with how the movie ended, it probably showed how Spacey and the younger guy made peace with their differences, and maybe even benefitted some from each other there.  Devito seemed to have had that already.  </p>
<p>Very impressed too with the acting.  Spacey is awesome in his role, yet Devito and the other guy held their own very well by him.  I&#8217;ve never seen Devito any better than in this role.</p>
<p>From what I saw of the movie, the younger guy did appear to show interest in the big Kahuna&#8217;s life and from what he said just took the opportunity to share his faith in Jesus.  I felt he did show honest and sincere interest in the big Kahuna&#8217;s life and what he had to share regarding it.  Yet I can relate to Spacey too.  In the past with the previous owner at my place of employment I used to step in on temporary General Manager assignment while he was between GMs.  During one such time myself and another Christian had a similar discussion.  If I recall correctly, I addressed the issue of dispensing charity to customers at the owner&#8217;s expense.  I got a comment back that implied I wasn&#8217;t being Christianly.  I felt that looking down and was also angered by what I saw as not seeing things from the owner&#8217;s perspective.  And my comment was, &#8220;This is business&#8230;&#8221;  also elaborating on not ignoring the owner&#8217;s instructions and goals.  I had no problems with them taking their own finances to aid others and even speaking of Jesus if others were open to it (I&#8217;ve done the same) but felt they were wrong in ignoring the owner&#8217;s specific instructions in other areas, especially since it was his finances.  </p>
<p>Anyway, in my view I think the younger guy could have spoken of Jesus while also sharing why he was sent there.  He could have told the big Kahuna that he was concerned that he would just see his sharing Jesus as a means to win his business but he honestly cared about him so that wasn&#8217;t the case, and just left their card if he wanted to pursue the topic of business further, as Devito and Spacey wanted him to do (that is all they finally agreed on doing if I recollect correctly).  Seemed they all knew the big Kahuna wasn&#8217;t interested in business at that time in his life but Devito and Spacey were hoping to peak his interest there anyway, as they were sent to do.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m big on honest communication as I feel it can help in doing away with assumptions that can get bent all out of shape.  </p>
<p>Again, from what I saw of the movie I thought it was a wonderful exploration regarding sharing the gospel and other things around the topic of religion, God, and priorities.  I&#8217;m looking forward to seeing the whole movie.  </p>
<p>Let me know if it was a derailing and not appreciated.  Still find &#8220;short&#8221; challenging but I can put it away if not appreciated because to me that would be the bigger issue, how open others are to it and how beneficial they find it.   </p>
<p>Anyway, below are the consecutive scenes.  Grab the popcorn and settle in.  Don&#8217;t you just love youtube?:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=94XTIIgChj8&#038;feature=related" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=94XTIIgChj8&#038;feature=related</a></p>
<p><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f-TV3JNPpCE&#038;feature=related" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f-TV3JNPpCE&#038;feature=related</a></p>
<p><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a_43bczYDhY&#038;feature=related" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a_43bczYDhY&#038;feature=related</a></p>
<p>Enjoy!<br />
Jo</p>
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		<title>By: JamesW</title>
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		<dc:creator>JamesW</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 09 Jan 2010 14:16:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Emily, in the context of the conversation, I think Hume&#039;s remark was right on.</description>
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		<title>By: EmilyTimbol</title>
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		<dc:creator>EmilyTimbol</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 09 Jan 2010 06:05:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t think the way Jesus wants up to bring the gospel with someone is on national television, after publicly bringing up their sins to an audience, when the person isn&#039;t even there.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t think the way Jesus wants up to bring the gospel with someone is on national television, after publicly bringing up their sins to an audience, when the person isn&#8217;t even there.</p>
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		<title>By: Jo</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 09 Jan 2010 01:04:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thought I was done for the day when I opened up this email from a friend.  Anyway, not to beat a dead horse (not that he would feel it) or revive that conversation but just sharing and offering something that may echo at heart what I think you may be getting at James so this one is for you.  Whether one agrees with every word I personally don&#039;t think is that revelant, but hey, I could be wrong.  I know, hard to believe but it has happened before.

Just kidding.  Just kidding!

See below:

Jesus Christ - &#039;two most explosive words in English language&#039;

Fox News analyst Brit Hume says he doesn&#039;t regret urging Tiger Woods to become a Christian so the golfer can find forgiveness for marital infidelity. Hume told CBN News that &quot;Christianity is a religion for sinners -- and I think that Tiger Woods has an opportunity here, and my prayer would be that he would take it.&quot; Hume has been renounced for saying that he doesn&#039;t think the famous golfer&#039;s belief in Buddhism &quot;offers the kind of forgiveness and redemption that is offered by the Christian faith.&quot;

He recognizes that openly expressing faith in Jesus Christ offends a lot of people. &quot;People rage about this,&quot; he said. &quot;It&#039;s very offensive to those who don&#039;t share the faith, [and] it&#039;s offensive to some people who claim they do share the faith. This is to be expected, and it has been happening to people who proclaim their faith in Christ for as long as anybody can remember -- this is part of the deal.&quot;

Hume described how he became a Christian. &quot;Eleven years ago, my son committed suicide,&quot; he shared. &quot;And as you can imagine, it was absolutely devastating. And yet throughout that whole horrible time, I had this sense that God was there for me, that he would rescue me, that he would save me -- and he did.&quot;

The news analyst said he was deeply moved by the hundreds of letters of condolence he received after that tragedy. &quot;I felt that I was seeing in them the face of God,&quot; he recalled, &quot;and I felt that it was time for me now to face up to the Christian faith which I purported to belong to, and try to face up to the implications of what I purported to believe -- and I&#039;ve been trying ever since.&quot;

---I have a friend that per his marriage had converted to Buddism.  I haven&#039;t seen him in awhile but when sharing I personally did not feel that I should attack his beliefs there (not saying anyone is doing that) but just share my faith in Jesus and I showed interest in his religious beliefs for other religions do interest me to a degree.  I like to know what people believe and why they have opted for their beliefs, even as I don&#039;t see them as the answer.  Not only that but as a friend I love and care about I am interested in his life. 

Anyway, the last indepth discussion we had regarding our faith he mentioned that his mom, who had passed, was a believer in faith in Christ and he used to be too and it seemed like he was reconsidering his choice of choosing another religion.  

Have you all seen &quot;The Big Kahuna&quot; movie.  I saw a good portion of it the other day and there was much discussion about Jesus in it.  Kevin Spacey, whose acting I love, is in it and he is awesome as usual.  Danny Devito and the other fellow were very good too.  Anyway, I am hoping to rent soon so that I can see it all.  I thought it may be some lame comedy (can be hard to find a good one) but started to watch as I love Kevin and glad I stayed with it.  It is indepth and good, the good portion I saw.  

Here is a scene:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-PkOc-B64dY

I have to say that from the portion of the movie I saw, I see truth and wonderful things in what the kid was looking to do and in what Devito said in this clip too.  I don&#039;t feel our limitations should stop us in spreading the good news found in Jesus.  God is not limited by our limitations, but again, see some revelant things in what Devito shared too.  

Love in Him,
Jo</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thought I was done for the day when I opened up this email from a friend.  Anyway, not to beat a dead horse (not that he would feel it) or revive that conversation but just sharing and offering something that may echo at heart what I think you may be getting at James so this one is for you.  Whether one agrees with every word I personally don&#8217;t think is that revelant, but hey, I could be wrong.  I know, hard to believe but it has happened before.</p>
<p>Just kidding.  Just kidding!</p>
<p>See below:</p>
<p>Jesus Christ &#8211; &#8216;two most explosive words in English language&#8217;</p>
<p>Fox News analyst Brit Hume says he doesn&#8217;t regret urging Tiger Woods to become a Christian so the golfer can find forgiveness for marital infidelity. Hume told CBN News that &#8220;Christianity is a religion for sinners &#8212; and I think that Tiger Woods has an opportunity here, and my prayer would be that he would take it.&#8221; Hume has been renounced for saying that he doesn&#8217;t think the famous golfer&#8217;s belief in Buddhism &#8220;offers the kind of forgiveness and redemption that is offered by the Christian faith.&#8221;</p>
<p>He recognizes that openly expressing faith in Jesus Christ offends a lot of people. &#8220;People rage about this,&#8221; he said. &#8220;It&#8217;s very offensive to those who don&#8217;t share the faith, [and] it&#8217;s offensive to some people who claim they do share the faith. This is to be expected, and it has been happening to people who proclaim their faith in Christ for as long as anybody can remember &#8212; this is part of the deal.&#8221;</p>
<p>Hume described how he became a Christian. &#8220;Eleven years ago, my son committed suicide,&#8221; he shared. &#8220;And as you can imagine, it was absolutely devastating. And yet throughout that whole horrible time, I had this sense that God was there for me, that he would rescue me, that he would save me &#8212; and he did.&#8221;</p>
<p>The news analyst said he was deeply moved by the hundreds of letters of condolence he received after that tragedy. &#8220;I felt that I was seeing in them the face of God,&#8221; he recalled, &#8220;and I felt that it was time for me now to face up to the Christian faith which I purported to belong to, and try to face up to the implications of what I purported to believe &#8212; and I&#8217;ve been trying ever since.&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8212;I have a friend that per his marriage had converted to Buddism.  I haven&#8217;t seen him in awhile but when sharing I personally did not feel that I should attack his beliefs there (not saying anyone is doing that) but just share my faith in Jesus and I showed interest in his religious beliefs for other religions do interest me to a degree.  I like to know what people believe and why they have opted for their beliefs, even as I don&#8217;t see them as the answer.  Not only that but as a friend I love and care about I am interested in his life. </p>
<p>Anyway, the last indepth discussion we had regarding our faith he mentioned that his mom, who had passed, was a believer in faith in Christ and he used to be too and it seemed like he was reconsidering his choice of choosing another religion.  </p>
<p>Have you all seen &#8220;The Big Kahuna&#8221; movie.  I saw a good portion of it the other day and there was much discussion about Jesus in it.  Kevin Spacey, whose acting I love, is in it and he is awesome as usual.  Danny Devito and the other fellow were very good too.  Anyway, I am hoping to rent soon so that I can see it all.  I thought it may be some lame comedy (can be hard to find a good one) but started to watch as I love Kevin and glad I stayed with it.  It is indepth and good, the good portion I saw.  </p>
<p>Here is a scene:<br />
<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-PkOc-B64dY" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-PkOc-B64dY</a></p>
<p>I have to say that from the portion of the movie I saw, I see truth and wonderful things in what the kid was looking to do and in what Devito said in this clip too.  I don&#8217;t feel our limitations should stop us in spreading the good news found in Jesus.  God is not limited by our limitations, but again, see some revelant things in what Devito shared too.  </p>
<p>Love in Him,<br />
Jo</p>
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		<title>By: matticus</title>
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		<dc:creator>matticus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Jan 2010 08:17:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>An interesting article, and an even more interesting discussion to be found below. I love this website. 
Although I agree in essence to what is being put forth in Dahlstrom&#039;s article I find myself wondering if ecumenism is what was happening between Bonhoeffer and the German monastery. It is easy to see denominations as things that separate us, and when you look at it that way it becomes true. I think the unity of the church is much larger than that. It would be great if we were all in agreement on things like Christology,and Soteriology but while we are not all presently in agreement we would do each other no good at all if we didn&#039;t question the things we thought to be outside the teaching of the Bible. The issues between Protestantism, and Catholicism are important, as are those between Emergents, and Evangelicals. We&#039;re debating theology here, not worship songs.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>An interesting article, and an even more interesting discussion to be found below. I love this website.<br />
Although I agree in essence to what is being put forth in Dahlstrom&#8217;s article I find myself wondering if ecumenism is what was happening between Bonhoeffer and the German monastery. It is easy to see denominations as things that separate us, and when you look at it that way it becomes true. I think the unity of the church is much larger than that. It would be great if we were all in agreement on things like Christology,and Soteriology but while we are not all presently in agreement we would do each other no good at all if we didn&#8217;t question the things we thought to be outside the teaching of the Bible. The issues between Protestantism, and Catholicism are important, as are those between Emergents, and Evangelicals. We&#8217;re debating theology here, not worship songs.</p>
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		<title>By: EmilyTimbol</title>
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		<dc:creator>EmilyTimbol</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Jan 2010 20:54:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Gotcha, I misread. And thanks. I understand how you could be torn by that, but I&#039;d seriously ask you to go to scripture over it. If you can find verses that say something to back up what that author (who was it by the way?) was claiming (social justice without Jesus=bad) then I&#039;d definitley like to see them. 

I&#039;ve said it before but I&#039;m a firm believer in the &quot;all truth is God&#039;s truth&quot; theory and that God is big enough to not be threatened when people call good actions by the wrong name. Just because a Mormon or a Hindu or whatever might be doing some good for the wrong reason, (in my view) that doesn&#039;t negate the good that was done.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gotcha, I misread. And thanks. I understand how you could be torn by that, but I&#8217;d seriously ask you to go to scripture over it. If you can find verses that say something to back up what that author (who was it by the way?) was claiming (social justice without Jesus=bad) then I&#8217;d definitley like to see them. </p>
<p>I&#8217;ve said it before but I&#8217;m a firm believer in the &#8220;all truth is God&#8217;s truth&#8221; theory and that God is big enough to not be threatened when people call good actions by the wrong name. Just because a Mormon or a Hindu or whatever might be doing some good for the wrong reason, (in my view) that doesn&#8217;t negate the good that was done.</p>
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		<title>By: JamesW</title>
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		<dc:creator>JamesW</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Jan 2010 20:32:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Emily, as always, you know how to share your disagreements with dignity and without making the other person feeling small. A lot of people can learn a lot from you.

I want to address one thing you said, not to argue, but to clarify because I think you misunderstood my position somewhat. You said:

&quot;but, unlike you, I do not think that all that requires us as Christians to do is “spread the Gospel” and that feeding the poor and social justice is “bad.” That’s not only proposterous, it’s un-Biblical.&quot;


If I would have said that, it would be unbiblical. But I never said social justice was bad. I said just the opposite, actually. I only said that (a) it isn&#039;t enough (because it&#039;s temporary); and that (b)I am torn about doing it alongside ministries from non-Christian faiths. Not against it. Torn.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Emily, as always, you know how to share your disagreements with dignity and without making the other person feeling small. A lot of people can learn a lot from you.</p>
<p>I want to address one thing you said, not to argue, but to clarify because I think you misunderstood my position somewhat. You said:</p>
<p>&#8220;but, unlike you, I do not think that all that requires us as Christians to do is “spread the Gospel” and that feeding the poor and social justice is “bad.” That’s not only proposterous, it’s un-Biblical.&#8221;</p>
<p>If I would have said that, it would be unbiblical. But I never said social justice was bad. I said just the opposite, actually. I only said that (a) it isn&#8217;t enough (because it&#8217;s temporary); and that (b)I am torn about doing it alongside ministries from non-Christian faiths. Not against it. Torn.</p>
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		<title>By: EmilyTimbol</title>
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		<dc:creator>EmilyTimbol</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Jan 2010 18:03:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And, to address what the author said about social concern being wrong if &quot;Jesus name isn&#039;t involved&quot;, I again have to say no. If the only organazation or people who are doing action to help the poor are secular, or of another faith, and the options are rejecting this help or accepting it, I truly do not think Jesus would say, &quot;No, I don&#039;t want a clean water well put in that village by those Buddhists, those people can suffer until a Christian comes along.&quot; That does not sound like Christ to me. The verses above don&#039;t tack on, &quot;then share the gospel&quot; because helping the poor IS the gospel. It&#039;s not words, it&#039;s action, and that&#039;s what matters.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And, to address what the author said about social concern being wrong if &#8220;Jesus name isn&#8217;t involved&#8221;, I again have to say no. If the only organazation or people who are doing action to help the poor are secular, or of another faith, and the options are rejecting this help or accepting it, I truly do not think Jesus would say, &#8220;No, I don&#8217;t want a clean water well put in that village by those Buddhists, those people can suffer until a Christian comes along.&#8221; That does not sound like Christ to me. The verses above don&#8217;t tack on, &#8220;then share the gospel&#8221; because helping the poor IS the gospel. It&#8217;s not words, it&#8217;s action, and that&#8217;s what matters.</p>
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		<title>By: EmilyTimbol</title>
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		<dc:creator>EmilyTimbol</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Jan 2010 17:58:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>James, 
   While I respect your opinion and what you are saying, I have to disagree 100%. Like you, I take the Bible seriously, and like you, I believe that Christ is the one and only way to true salvation, but, unlike you, I do not think that all that requires us as Christians to do is &quot;spread the Gospel&quot; and that feeding the poor and social justice is &quot;bad.&quot; That&#039;s not only proposterous, it&#039;s un-Biblical.

    The Bible is clear that God doesn&#039;t just urge, but DEMANDS social action from us, and He is straightforward about this not only being the telling of the gospel, but also feeding, caring,and giving money to the poor. It&#039;s all fine and dandy to say, &quot;Joy to the World&quot; but if someone is starving and we don&#039;t help them, what kind of witness is that giving?

Here are some of the verses that personally convict me to get involved in social justice;

James 2:15-17
15 Suppose a brother or sister is without clothes and daily food. 16 If one of you says to him, &quot;Go, I wish you well; keep warm and well fed,&quot; but does nothing about his physical needs, what good is it? 17 In the same way, faith by itself, if it is not accompanied by action, is dead.

Deut 15:7. &quot;If there is a poor man among you, one of your brothers, in any of the towns of the land which the LORD your God is giving you, you shall not harden your heart, nor close your hand to your poor brother; but you shall freely open your hand to him, and generously lend him sufficient for his need in whatever he lacks.&quot;


Ezekiel 16:49-50 
&quot;Behold, this was the guilt of your sister Sodom: she and her daughters had pride, excess of food, and prosperous ease, but did not aid the poor and needy. They were haughty and did an abomination before me. So I removed them, when I saw it.&quot; (Sodom was not destroyed because of sexual sin, it was destroyed because the citizens did not feed the poor)

Matthew 25: 35-45
I was hungry and you gave me food, I was thirsty and you gave me drink, I was a stranger and you welcomed me, I was naked and you gave me clothing, I was sick and you took care of me, I was in prison and you visited me. Then the righteous will answer him, &#039;Lord when was it that we did these things for you?&#039; And the king will answer them, &#039;Truly I tell you, just as you did it to one of the least of these who are members of my family, you did it to me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>James,<br />
   While I respect your opinion and what you are saying, I have to disagree 100%. Like you, I take the Bible seriously, and like you, I believe that Christ is the one and only way to true salvation, but, unlike you, I do not think that all that requires us as Christians to do is &#8220;spread the Gospel&#8221; and that feeding the poor and social justice is &#8220;bad.&#8221; That&#8217;s not only proposterous, it&#8217;s un-Biblical.</p>
<p>    The Bible is clear that God doesn&#8217;t just urge, but DEMANDS social action from us, and He is straightforward about this not only being the telling of the gospel, but also feeding, caring,and giving money to the poor. It&#8217;s all fine and dandy to say, &#8220;Joy to the World&#8221; but if someone is starving and we don&#8217;t help them, what kind of witness is that giving?</p>
<p>Here are some of the verses that personally convict me to get involved in social justice;</p>
<p>James 2:15-17<br />
15 Suppose a brother or sister is without clothes and daily food. 16 If one of you says to him, &#8220;Go, I wish you well; keep warm and well fed,&#8221; but does nothing about his physical needs, what good is it? 17 In the same way, faith by itself, if it is not accompanied by action, is dead.</p>
<p>Deut 15:7. &#8220;If there is a poor man among you, one of your brothers, in any of the towns of the land which the LORD your God is giving you, you shall not harden your heart, nor close your hand to your poor brother; but you shall freely open your hand to him, and generously lend him sufficient for his need in whatever he lacks.&#8221;</p>
<p>Ezekiel 16:49-50<br />
&#8220;Behold, this was the guilt of your sister Sodom: she and her daughters had pride, excess of food, and prosperous ease, but did not aid the poor and needy. They were haughty and did an abomination before me. So I removed them, when I saw it.&#8221; (Sodom was not destroyed because of sexual sin, it was destroyed because the citizens did not feed the poor)</p>
<p>Matthew 25: 35-45<br />
I was hungry and you gave me food, I was thirsty and you gave me drink, I was a stranger and you welcomed me, I was naked and you gave me clothing, I was sick and you took care of me, I was in prison and you visited me. Then the righteous will answer him, &#8216;Lord when was it that we did these things for you?&#8217; And the king will answer them, &#8216;Truly I tell you, just as you did it to one of the least of these who are members of my family, you did it to me.</p>
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