Comments on: We Have Ways of Making You Talk http://burnsidewriters.com/2010/02/03/we-have-ways-of-making-you-talk/ Sat, 11 Feb 2012 00:37:50 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.1.3 By: Jordan Green http://burnsidewriters.com/2010/02/03/we-have-ways-of-making-you-talk/comment-page-1/#comment-14503 Jordan Green Mon, 08 Feb 2010 22:12:59 +0000 http://burnsidewriters.com/?p=8742#comment-14503 Thanks, JG! I hope we never are, either... Thanks, JG! I hope we never are, either…

]]> By: jg http://burnsidewriters.com/2010/02/03/we-have-ways-of-making-you-talk/comment-page-1/#comment-14499 jg Mon, 08 Feb 2010 21:42:14 +0000 http://burnsidewriters.com/?p=8742#comment-14499 As I said, I do agree with the bulk of what you had to say on this issue. However, in the world we now live in the scenario is not as far fetched as it used to be. We used to have a clear idea who our enemy was (Germany, Japan, North Vietnam ect) but that is not the case anymore. Things are much more static. In Vietnam we learned that even children could be combatants. As a Christian I have never been put in that place (and pray I never will), so I cannot be as certian about what I would do. Take care. As I said, I do agree with the bulk of what you had to say on this issue. However, in the world we now live in the scenario is not as far fetched as it used to be. We used to have a clear idea who our enemy was (Germany, Japan, North Vietnam ect) but that is not the case anymore. Things are much more static. In Vietnam we learned that even children could be combatants. As a Christian I have never been put in that place (and pray I never will), so I cannot be as certian about what I would do. Take care.

]]> By: Jordan Green http://burnsidewriters.com/2010/02/03/we-have-ways-of-making-you-talk/comment-page-1/#comment-14493 Jordan Green Mon, 08 Feb 2010 17:52:50 +0000 http://burnsidewriters.com/?p=8742#comment-14493 jg, I can't really argue with you on that: if taking one enemy combatant's life, or torturing him, will save the lives of multiple people, how could we choose any other way? I generally believe that scenario is a false paradigm, but it guess it's not out of the realm of possibility. Even then, it's crossing a line I don't think should be crossed. Theoretically, American soldiers put their lives on the line to preserve certain values, and humane treatment of prisoners is one of those values. When you factor in Christianity, I can't see that torture is ever, ever an option. jg,

I can’t really argue with you on that: if taking one enemy combatant’s life, or torturing him, will save the lives of multiple people, how could we choose any other way?

I generally believe that scenario is a false paradigm, but it guess it’s not out of the realm of possibility. Even then, it’s crossing a line I don’t think should be crossed. Theoretically, American soldiers put their lives on the line to preserve certain values, and humane treatment of prisoners is one of those values.

When you factor in Christianity, I can’t see that torture is ever, ever an option.

]]> By: Austin http://burnsidewriters.com/2010/02/03/we-have-ways-of-making-you-talk/comment-page-1/#comment-14488 Austin Sun, 07 Feb 2010 22:31:13 +0000 http://burnsidewriters.com/?p=8742#comment-14488 Jordan, I found this is a very interesting, important read. I value your honesty and perspective on this issue. Good stuff. Jordan, I found this is a very interesting, important read. I value your honesty and perspective on this issue. Good stuff.

]]> By: jg http://burnsidewriters.com/2010/02/03/we-have-ways-of-making-you-talk/comment-page-1/#comment-14485 jg Sun, 07 Feb 2010 19:30:52 +0000 http://burnsidewriters.com/?p=8742#comment-14485 Jordon, In certian combat situation where the safety of my men, large loss of life, or a specific crisis situation dictates. Jordon,
In certian combat situation where the safety of my men, large loss of life, or a specific crisis situation dictates.

]]> By: Jordan Green http://burnsidewriters.com/2010/02/03/we-have-ways-of-making-you-talk/comment-page-1/#comment-14484 Jordan Green Sun, 07 Feb 2010 18:28:24 +0000 http://burnsidewriters.com/?p=8742#comment-14484 What would those time and good reasons be? What would those time and good reasons be?

]]> By: jg http://burnsidewriters.com/2010/02/03/we-have-ways-of-making-you-talk/comment-page-1/#comment-14478 jg Sun, 07 Feb 2010 03:53:21 +0000 http://burnsidewriters.com/?p=8742#comment-14478 I mispoke in my last sentance. I ment, there is time, and at times good reasons, for inhanced interrogation. I mispoke in my last sentance. I ment, there is time, and at times good reasons, for inhanced interrogation.

]]> By: jg http://burnsidewriters.com/2010/02/03/we-have-ways-of-making-you-talk/comment-page-1/#comment-14477 jg Sun, 07 Feb 2010 03:44:06 +0000 http://burnsidewriters.com/?p=8742#comment-14477 I appreciate your article. I was in the Army in a different time and a different war (which I do no want to talk about). I agree with 70% of what you said, but I also disagree. There is a time, a reason, and a place for forced interogation. I appreciate your article. I was in the Army in a different time and a different war (which I do no want to talk about). I agree with 70% of what you said, but I also disagree. There is a time, a reason, and a place for forced interogation.

]]> By: Jo http://burnsidewriters.com/2010/02/03/we-have-ways-of-making-you-talk/comment-page-1/#comment-14474 Jo Sat, 06 Feb 2010 18:25:57 +0000 http://burnsidewriters.com/?p=8742#comment-14474 Been going back to address some issues that may have arisen due to the re-arranging of some posts. I see Emily’s last post (Feb 5, 2:15pm) was moved up. I personally don’t see where that may have effected the conversation yet it does seem to disrupt the natural order of things. I don’t know for sure but maybe it was done to ensure others didn’t miss it and understood what it applied to. Call me a dreamer but I tend to believe in allowing the natural order of things (beyond God doing it that is and realize God may have been speaking to others) to take place. I think we can trust God to enlighten and emphasize to each what he wants without disrupting the natural order of things. Maybe he would have some miss it. But it’s not my call, just sharing. I also wanted to say if my comment was offensive to anyone, I do apologize now. If you go back to other areas and see how I used bad grammar (or should I say extra bad grammar beyond my usual bad grammar) it may help. With that said, when someone brings to attention what may be something amiss with me, I do like to take it to the Lord to see if there may be some validity to it or not. Whether that was the case or not, I do apologize now if it caused any unnecessary offense or pain. I do want to ask, “Why would anyone think my attempt at light banter and humor may be racist?” Because I am not looking to weave a web that others may fall into, or look to have them fall in a ditch, I do want to say that there is a ditch in front of that question so do think about what I am asking before you take a step. Love in Him, Jo Been going back to address some issues that may have arisen due to the re-arranging of some posts. I see Emily’s last post (Feb 5, 2:15pm) was moved up. I personally don’t see where that may have effected the conversation yet it does seem to disrupt the natural order of things. I don’t know for sure but maybe it was done to ensure others didn’t miss it and understood what it applied to. Call me a dreamer but I tend to believe in allowing the natural order of things (beyond God doing it that is and realize God may have been speaking to others) to take place. I think we can trust God to enlighten and emphasize to each what he wants without disrupting the natural order of things. Maybe he would have some miss it. But it’s not my call, just sharing.

I also wanted to say if my comment was offensive to anyone, I do apologize now. If you go back to other areas and see how I used bad grammar (or should I say extra bad grammar beyond my usual bad grammar) it may help. With that said, when someone brings to attention what may be something amiss with me, I do like to take it to the Lord to see if there may be some validity to it or not. Whether that was the case or not, I do apologize now if it caused any unnecessary offense or pain.

I do want to ask, “Why would anyone think my attempt at light banter and humor may be racist?”

Because I am not looking to weave a web that others may fall into, or look to have them fall in a ditch, I do want to say that there is a ditch in front of that question so do think about what I am asking before you take a step.

Love in Him,
Jo

]]> By: Jo http://burnsidewriters.com/2010/02/03/we-have-ways-of-making-you-talk/comment-page-1/#comment-14460 Jo Fri, 05 Feb 2010 22:07:18 +0000 http://burnsidewriters.com/?p=8742#comment-14460 Sorry, I should have stated this too to make it more clear: Even those on the inside will use unethical means in order to serve their own self-interest. How the military looks to safeguard from that, dunno. Sorry, I should have stated this too to make it more clear: Even those on the inside will use unethical means in order to serve their own self-interest. How the military looks to safeguard from that, dunno.

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